Heidegger

on 12/7/06 6:28 PM, Bakker, R.B.M. de at R.B.M.deBakker at uva.nl wrote:

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> Van: heidegger-bounces at soca.ecu.edu.au
> [mailto:heidegger-bounces@soca.ecu.edu.au]Namens peter k
> Verzonden: dinsdag 11 juli 2006 18:57
> Aan: heidegger at soca.ecu.edu.au
> Onderwerp: a question for rene, regarding organization and ‘negative
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> Rene, regarding what we were talking about before- organization as “has the
> cancer of nihilism inside”. It sudddenly occured to me that there is no
> place for morality in your equation. I’m on record as regarding morality as
> being outside the institutional bounds of phenomenology, but now I’m
> re-examining the question. Nihilism demands morality, because without it
> there is only- (I don’t know what- maybe the holocaust). When about age four
> I asked my mother what happens to you when you die- she replied (somewhat a
> tyrant) they put your body in the ground and it gets eaten by worms. So
> atheism was as a doctrine cultivated very early in my childhood. Later at
> twelve I burnt a bible in secret, the symbol of my commitment to this
> doctrine. Ever since, I rage against organized religion. But somehow,
> intrinsically I know right from wrong, it seems in origin pre- oedipal in
> Lacan’s discursive sense- or is it just the result of socialization after
> entry into the symbolic order. Anyway my question: “cancer of nihilism” vs
> morality as ‘organization’. Would appreciate your thoughts on the matter.
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> regards pk
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> Peter,
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> I had no problem with the words of the bible in my youth, only with
> those pronouncing them. In the NT are no commandments, despite what
> is made of it, also no spiritual beyond. So really i do not see your
> problem, except by contamination.
> If what lives around one, flourishes, that is enough for me, and the
> rest is hybris. If all is reduced to that, i see no chances for harming.
> Really Peter, the problem is only for those who try to justify the
> malicious, they have to lie. One just has to take care to stay out of it.
> Even nihilism is then no longer a cancer, it is the reducing of everything
> to the null nothing, esp. morality, and we are in it because we are leaving
> out the positive. That is malicious to the highest degree, and to be
> recognized as such, otherwise one remains dependent. But the malice
> concerned is not owned by the actual actors, who are merely willing victims.
> That is the ontological malum which is just denied, and that is the summit
> of hybris. It is the stuff world wars are made of.
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> rene
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Rene, the bleakness of nihilism is beautiful to me; especially suburban
nihilism; I like nothing better to be lost in a city at night, on foot, with
no direction- it is rapture- maybe I’m just a fucked unit- but what about
the origins of morality; nihilism does not preclude morality, although there
are some who would say so; this is so because morality behaves like another
kind of apriori; it announces itself regardless of faith, or no faith.
Please comment again. pk

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