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In article , GEVANS613 at aol.com writes
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>In a message dated 04/06/2006 02:07:36 GMT Standard Time, phil at thalasson.com
>writes:
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>In article , GEVANS613 at aol.com writes
>>You [and some others on this list] may be surprised to know that in
>>*real* life, I am not overtly anti-religious at all. I attend the
>>Catholic Cathedral whenever there is a sung high mass - I love the
>>atmosphere and chorale pieces of religiously inspired music.
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>
>I take it that the music is the only reason for your attendance.
>
>”It has been shown, beyond doubt, that nowadays, with the poor quality
>of ingredients for the sacramental bread and wine and their
>lackadaisical preparation, nearly all Masses are null and void.”
>Huysmans in A Rebours
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>
>Jud:
>Read it again Philip old horse - * I love the
>*atmosphere* and chorale pieces of religiously inspired music.*

Ah, the atmosphere - must be all that thurification.

>
>So no - it is not just the music alone - there is [in kiddie-speak] a
>*being with* - a sharing of a certain predictable, stylised, cultural milieu
>and
>ambience which I enjoy. [Like I enjoy the atmosphere in a Mosque BTW]
>
>
>The churches, the cathedrals, the shrines, the religiously inspired music,
>are as much a part of the atheist’s cultural heritage as anybody else’s’,
>funded, underwritten and maintained with the help of obligatory tax concessions
>coughed-up by all - not just the members of the church, so I see no reason to
>doctrinally avoid such places and miss out on cultural goodies and delights
>simply because one does not believe in God. A hero of mine was Zinoviev [a
>Communist leader] who at the height of the October revolution ran around
>exhorting the Bolsheviks not to destroy their own cultural heritage by burning
>churches, historic houses and palaces and demolishing statues of past Czars
>etc.
>
>As for Huysman’s complaints about the quality of the ingredients and
>preparation of the sacramental bread, I cannot be a judge of that because I
>never
>partake of the holy sacrament. The wine? Maybe Huysmans was a wine-buff or a
>plonky, or wanted something a little stronger - who knows? I think it’s a bit
>churlish of him to criticise God’s free alcoholic handouts anyway. He could
>have always dug into his own deep pockets and donated some better quality
>hooch to be blessed by the priests, and put the money where his mouth is?
>

Your recent posts on religion make me think your life may be taking a
course similar to Huysmans’.


Philip Baker

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