Heidegger

Hey, thanks for all the sarcastic chuckles.

My intial point, before the departure into silliness, was
that if you have a substantive point to make in the
Heidegger department, not drowning it in anti-americanism
would help me to discern it.

I’m somewhat confused by the status of this draft.
Isn’t a proscription something issued by the state?
What state is behind the running of the list?
How does that state sponsorship square with the recent
association of the list with the an-archos nomenclature?

— Malcolm Riddoch wrote:

>
> A Preliminary Draft of the Principles of American Prosciption
>
> Thanks very much for those replies Anthony and That Pete, I think I’m
> getting much closer to a resolution of what anti-Americanism means,
> more or less. I took the liberty of extracting your responses and
> making a titled list. Now I’m offering this merely as a first draft
> for discussion and working towards a general code of practice for the
> Heidegger list whenever someone attempts to discuss topics deemed to
> be offensive to anti anti-American sentiments. Just add, delete and
> edit it as you see fit and once we reach agreement I’ll put it
> through the Google translator and copy the lot over to the Heidegger
> FAQ wiki for easy reference.
>
> Anthony’s proposal:
>
> 1. Paranoid idiocy
> ===================
> This American was specifically calling “paranoid idiocy” the theory
> that the US government secretly were the ones who brought down the
> WTC. This American is not surprised that Malcolm above misrepresented
> what he said as referring to all “911 protagonists”.
> ===================
>
> 2. Flat earth
> ====================
> Here are some other sites along the same lines that might interest you:
>
> http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonsk…
> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
> ====================
>
> 3. Politicization of science
> ====================
> and as we all know, psychiatrists have no political views.
> ====================
>
> 4. Psychiatric disturbance
> =====================
> Wait a minute - you actually BELIEVE that the US government brought
> down the WTC? Or by “mass murder of its own citizens,” you’re
> referring to something else hopefully? If not, then psychiatric
> evaluation may be an important consideration after all.
> =====================
>
> 5. Radicalize
> ====================
> Oh my, I’ve attributed many things to you - contentiousness,
> unreflective bias, but I never thought went that far. You actually
> believe the scholars for 9/11 truth and their paranoid idiocy? No
> wonder you reacted to my “sky is blue” example as you did - I took it
> for mere evasion, but now I see a more radical possibility.
> ====================
>
> 6. Revelations
> ====================
> Your revelations in this post make such a criticism somewhat ironic.
> ===================
>
> 7. Demand defence
> ===================
> Please cite the post from you back in the 90s in which you complained
> about Bill Clinton’s Eschalon project, which was far more invasive
> then the current sweeps.
> ===================
>
>
> That Pete’s proposal:
>
> 1. Shock and Awe as liberation from tyranny
>
> > There you go again. You describe liberation from tyranny as bombing
> > to the ground, so I question what grounds your truth.
>
>
> 2. Old Hippies
>
> > Neil’s been a US citizen for some decades. I’m very fond of some of
> > his stuff, I liked the use of irony on his latest album (something
> > noticeably lacking in most of the antiwar crowd), but, like, Neil’s
> > still a hippie, man.
>
>
> 3. Enemy succour
>
> > But just because (1) they’re american, and (2) they’re anti-american,
> > they can provide foreign haters with an excuse for their anti-
> > americanism.
>
>
> 4. anti-Intellectualism
>
> > You only have to read anything recent by say Chomsky or Vidal, to
> > realise
> > they’re clowns.
>
>
> 5. US intellectual superiority
>
> > Yet they’re regularly voted as top intellectuals in
> > places with intellectual pretensions like Europe. It just goes to show
> > the lie dream of the anti-american scene. Wake up! All Europe’s useful
> > intellectuals have moved stateside. That’s why its called a brain
> > drain.
>
>
> 6. Dismiss the old guard
>
> > No comment. I’ve never heard of him. Perhaps he should move abroad
> > where he might stand out and attract attention as an intellectual.
>
>
> 7. Reject scientific authority
>
> > You’re appealing to the authority of psychiatrists on a Heidegger
> > list?
>
>
> 8. Reject 911 demolition
>
> > Right after they dynamited the WTC…yawn.
>
>
> 9. Maintain the belief in democratic elections
>
> > I don’t think the North Americans proscribe anything. They’re merely
> > pointing out the cracks in various dialectics. That’s where the
> > light gets in.
>
>
> 10. Discount what cannot be denied
>
> > And I’d add, as someone with some involvement in tech, the abilities
> > of software, and government agencies, to make sense of massive amounts
> > of data is highly exaggerated.
>
>
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