Aristotle on suicide [was Heidegger Email List?]
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On 31 Jul 2006, at 23:22, Bernx at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 7/31/2006 8:21:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> rscheetz at cboss.com writes:
> —– Original Message —–
> From: Bernx at aol.com
> To: heidegger at soca.ecu.edu.au
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 5:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Aristotle on suicide [was Heidegger Email List?]
>
> In a message dated 7/30/2006 11:00:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> rscheetz at cboss.com writes:
> So, …not to quibble over semantics or technicalities, the point
> is that in
> each case the person actively choses death, and achieves thereby
> translation
> into higher being, from man to god.
> Accordingly, suicide is the greatest assertton of the will to power
> insofar as thanatos is the via regia to final perfection.
> Bernard
> (bxbovasso)
> I find heid’s formulation, resolute being towards death, the via
> crucis, superior to nietzsche’s. you are being ironic and that
> really makes the pt, -the clear absurdity of wtp analysis of jesus
> or soc, contra nietzsche.
>
> I prefer to take “will to power” in the phenomenological
> sense;,i.e., without value or moral judgement of it. The telos of
> the will to power is final perfection, a state (of being) that is
> suprordinate to that of mortality. Final perfection, of course, is
> a surrogate term for whatever we call God (as a singulaity), not so
> much as to become the Divinity but attain proximity to it. This
> would include the so-called atheist. Heidegger notes: “The god-less
> thinking which must abandon the god of
> philosophy, god as causa sui, is perhaps closer to the divine God.
> Here this means only: god-less thinking is more open to Him than
> onto-theo-logic would like to admit.” (Idenity and Difference,
> 1957) since suicide is the greatest power known to humankind it
> must stand in equivalence to its goal, the final perfection which
> is the original (ur) perfection known as the first day (of
> creation) in Genesis, or what the alchemist Gehard Dorn refered to
> as the unus mundus, the undifferentiated unity standing outside the
> dasien reality of time and space and its particularities “out
> there.” The final qua ur perfection is thus as state of pure
> potential, a facultus praeformandi and that is to say, Being on the
> verge of Becoming. Thanatos reverses the process in what Heidegger
> would call the “step back” to Being more often realized as the
> impatience of the suicide to achieve unity with this unus mundus.
Clearly recognised by Dostoyevsky and diagnosed as the madness of
nihilism.
Abdassamad
