Aristotle on suicide [was Heidegger Email List?]
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paradoxically, if one thinks of Nietzsche’s idea of art, then art =
technology. Heidegger somewhere considers
a dam in the mountains to be the real work of art in our era. A good place
to experience Verlassenheit.
Rene, we know the vulgar error (the mushroom cloud was commonly in the first
instance called ‘beautiful’), but how can you, nietzsche, heid conflate the
contrdictory categories of power and spirit?
bob
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paradoxically, if one thinks of Nietzsche’s idea of art, then art =
technology. Heidegger somewhere considers
a dam in the mountains to be the real work of art in our era. A good place
to experience Verlassenheit.
what also came to mind was: “There are still songs to be sung beyond men”
(Celan) Re glass, mind his title
Atemkristall, Breath-crystall. Logos as seeing. (and Spinoza …)
The glass, the poet, is also the bell, and yre equally easily to disturb,
in:
On account of lesser things
was mistuned, as by snow,
the bell, which sounds
for the evening meal.
The ‘crazy’ editor Sattler brings verses, already known, as belonging to
this fragment.
They talk of manna, and that there was a Murren, a complaning, but
physically: Murren,
my bible gives: gemor. The Jews in the desert complain, they are hungry.
They are getting
bread from above, manna, and they eat it during 40 years. Then things like
Jericho become
understandable. This bread is not fruit of the earth, it is ‘only’ blessed
by heaven. Only light
(honey), not hiddenness.
Here lies hidden, ot better: publicly accessible, a big secret, which has to
do with the divine
appearance to Jews first - a great and strong tradition - and to the
Greeks - short and shining.
One must see the desert, the “pour place which flowers”, where also Christ
turns to, the great
anfang which can come also to lesser. and a lot more: all Hölderlin. And the
earthless bread …
and the complaining. Jahveh even has to trade with the Jews in order to
satisfy them.
“Do you still don’t see?” (NT)
It is also absolutely to the Jews themselves, in order to get them the hell
out of the coming
rage of antisemitism or antiantiantisemitism. First Iraq. Now Iraq and
Lebanon. Times will to will
makes….
Rene
maybe it is also permittable to point to a peculiarity of Hölderlin’s
SINGING, that
if one finds the right tone, of itself are forming centers of rest, where
the verse becomes
a sort of sententia. Also related is the exaiphnes, the sudden lighting up,
which is peculiar
to seeing, er-sehen.
All this, precisly now, btw, is only possible because of the other side, the
Gestell, the opposite with which
it belongs together, fits in with. If it is too big for us, i mean the
essence of technology, then we
have to become greater, in order to face it. Heidegger somewhere speaks of a
granting, a Gunst
over his thinking way. So either he is a clown, or .. a Schicksal indeed. He
was quite satisfied
with THAT alternative. The betterknowers …
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