Heidegger

on 27/6/06 9:56 PM, Bakker, R.B.M. de at R.B.M.deBakker at uva.nl wrote:

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> Van: heidegger-bounces at soca.ecu.edu.au
> [mailto:heidegger-bounces@soca.ecu.edu.au]Namens peter k
> Verzonden: dinsdag 27 juni 2006 15:32
> Aan: Discussions pertaining to the philosophy of Martin Heidegger
> Onderwerp: Re: Broken Tools
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> on 26/6/06 5:23 PM, Bakker, R.B.M. de at R.B.M.deBakker at uva.nl wrote:
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>> —–Oorspronkelijk bericht—–
>> Van: heidegger-bounces at soca.ecu.edu.au
>> [mailto:heidegger-bounces@soca.ecu.edu.au]Namens That Pete
>> Verzonden: zaterdag 24 juni 2006 19:21
>> Aan: Discussions pertaining to the philosophy of Martin Heidegger
>> Onderwerp: Re: Broken Tools
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>> — allen scult wrote:
>>> You might have noticed that some of the boys have
>>> been bad-mouthing religion, once again
>>> cataloguing the ridiculous and terrible things
>>> people do with it, as if that had something to do
>>> with it.
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>> I wouldn’t conflate ridiculing people’s religious
>> pronouncements about hens and red cows with denigrating
>> divinity, theology, or piety. As Heidegger says, the
>> Greeks’ relationship to the divine is not like the
>> Romans’ religio.
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>> either this remains a communication without consequence,
>> or one adds sthing as to how the immurement of aletheia by
>> Roman imperialism can be lifted.
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>> You are all doing the same, Allan, Bob, Tympan: stating
>> words by others, and keeping them so in the postmodern realm,
>> so that meaninglessness, monotheism, Jahweh, Jesus, money, all
>> the same, go on dominating unhindered. At the bottom of this
>> practice is sheer malice, and it shows ever more clearly.
>> All impotence falls prey to it.
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>> That Hegel, Heidegger and others are used for nihilist purposes,
>> belongs to nihilism itself. Therefore the destruction of Heidegger
>> is an essential sign. It shows very clearly in his being quoted.
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>> rene
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> it is not mere malice. The impending death of myself, my family friends and
> lovers is a tragedy, and a certain tragedy, all of us will be gone from here
> in the blink of an eye, and “the window will be closed for us” as Malcom
> once said to me. I hate the lie, the sick predators whom prey on the
> fragility of the human condition. One of my friends has liver cancer, bone
> cancer- she has two children under seven, and a third only ten. I would
> dearly like to launch a radical ’secular’ crusade against organized religion
> and the collection of evil ‘rockspiders’ who drive its cause. John the
> Baptist said that when the massire comes, he will coming bearing an axe,
> which he will wield without mercy - well I’ve got a machine gun, so he’d
> bloody well better not come anywhere near me. pk
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> Sure Peter, who is not right nowadays?
> Heidegger’s assessment though is that not only organized religion but *any*
> organization has the cancer of nihilism inside. And if we would look closer,
> it would appear not even to be a cancer. So that there can be no cure and no
> leader curers. We cannot just cut away what has made us during thousands of
> years. Or do you think what the Republicans did to Spanish priests, or the
> Russians to religious children etc etc, is liberating? It merely softens
> the cancer of widerwille temporarily.
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> See my next post on how religion became ensnared into ontotheology, that is:
> metaphysics, and the fatal conequences this entailed, the moment metaphysics
> was
> completed and blown away like dust. Metaphysica melaina! That throws a
> different
> light on Heraclitus..
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> regards
> rene
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by radical ’secular’ I actually mean an organization that is grounded ‘in
the world’- i mean immersion in the sensual world, a comportment towards
authenticity in the face death- and is not merely ‘organization’. I meant to
make that point more clearly but thought you guys would understand that I
used the word to refer to worldliness, and Being in the world- not just any
old ‘organization’, or a reference to people who merely do not got to church
much. But if you like you can address my cancerous organization (and I do
take your point) as being permaanently under erasure in regards the
determinism of your nihilism- and yes I would be prepared to do terrible
things, but the romans did terrible things- but in the end, their
organizations and ordering of the world resulted in the current and growing
humanist orierntation of ‘civilization’ which adds up to a whole lot more
misery being driven from the worlds continents and peoples. There are not as
many barefoot and pregnant women, less domestic violence, less diseaese,
less famine, freedom of speech, less despots, better treatment of the worlds
less fortunate and disabled. All because the Romans KNEW they had to
slaughter Germans. In the end, its just mass benefit, against a few broken
eggs. But I entirely understood your critic of my post- but its a bit subtle
for my headstrong ways- I have ‘faith’ in the notion of radical
revolutionary social egineering- and thus the notion ‘enemy of the
revolution’- and how, now that I get to the end, I critic you and your
critic of my post. (not that I mind someone replying to my post). As I have
said in a previous post, ‘Stalin’ was right, to persecute the church, and
especially right to sacrifice the flower of Ruussia’s youth to defeat the
Nazis. He was a monster, but his place in history means that the proletariat
is now not so completely downtrodden and disenfrachised, and Reinhard
Heydrich didn’t succeed Hitler, to be the undisputed Fuhrer of the world.
pk

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