Heidegger

Your question is fine and your point well made. Indeed, I was not
particularly thinking about the present conflict of the “zionist
entity” and I guess the same might equally have been said in the
epoch when death squads were active in South America. I only raised
the point I did because a persistent theme (particularly but not
uniquely from Jud) is what I mentioned of blame being directed at
Heidegger and others for whatever association he and they had with
the Nazis. If that criticism is valid then we all ought to be aware
of how coming generations might view us vis-a-vis our stance to
current monstrous events (not solely the zionist entity’s affairs).

Regards,

Abdassamad

On 11 Aug 2006, at 10:46, michaelP wrote:

> Curious that in a time given to passing judgement on Heidegger and
> other famous Germans for their complicity or even silence during
> momentous events, that anyone should suggest (not just talking
> about you Jud) that in these times we should only talk philosophy,
> and that it is totally out of place and even vulgar to criticise
> various personages, especially if they choke back a tear while
> mentioning the word ‘freedom’.
>
> Abdassamad
>
> Abdassamad, the name of this list and a decent indication of the
> purpose of this list is:
>
> “Discussions pertaining to the philosophy of Martin Heidegger”
>
> Thus, is it unreasonable to proximally and for the most part to
> want to employ and enjoy this list for the purpose of discussions
> pertaining to the philosophy of Martin Heidegger? Also, “momentous
> events” are occurring all the time (whether carpet-bombing media
> coverage reports them or not) and we are necessarily influenced and
> moved by such reports that bombard us from all sides continuously,
> so why pick only one of many wars and catastrophes (etc) that are
> besetting the planet right now and for the life of this list
> [genuine question]? I presume you are referring to the conflict
> between the ‘zionist entity’ and the ‘anti-zionist entity’? If not
> then, I apologise.
>
> regards
>
> michaelP
>
> On 7 Aug 2006, at 12:47, GEVANS613 at aol.com
> wrote:
>
>
> Jud:
>
> The unremitting, never-ending shrieking, clamour, ad hominem and
> Der Boykott Kameradschaftlichen Seins about politics and Jews from
> the left and the right [but mostly right] only reinforces the self-
> evident [a point that only ein politischer Narr would not spot
> after a week or two] that the basic ground of the Heidegger cult is
> not about philosophy - it is really about politics and Jews.
>
>
>
> My contributions over the years have usually been concerned with
> ontology and to point to the lack of anything seriously
> *philosophical* in: *Heidegger der Nicht-Fragesteller,* and have
> included attempts to rip away the mask behind which le plus grand
> poseur politique du monde hid the very evil seeds of racial hatred
> which inspires and gives oxygen to the very ad hominem that
> afflicts us now. Now even I, who have never been one to turn the
> other cheek, and always return like with like, must admit that the
> levels of unremitting Heidegger-inspired ad hominem twixt the
> politicos here have reached levels of abuse I have rarely witnessed
> on other lists.
>
>
>
> Admittedly my eliminative determinism is an ontology for which few
> on this list have any sympathy - but at least it is unified
> ontology, and often provokes lively philosophical discussion, and
> is not a boringly incessant raking and re-raking over the coals of
> the failure of Western middle eastern foreign policy and Real Politik.
>
>
>
> Why not split the list in two completely - and form a new list
> called *The Politics of Martin Heidegger List? * Such a list would
> cater for those more interested in the political ramifications of
> the man and the implications of his racialism, and would provide a
> podium for the more serious academic analyses of the Middle East,
> like that just posted by Malcolm, or ones concerning Germany and
> the West by the Dark Stranger? Is it not true to say that there is
> too much *bleeding over* of the political or the polemos [which as
> far as I can see has nothing whatsoever to do with philosophy [or
> Heidegger] into the space were others who are actually interested
> in philosophy and ontology can discuss away to their heart’s content?
>
>
>
> BTW. As far as the two graphs were concerned - it is not
> educational in the sphere of the study of dead-ideas, to compare
> and contrast the different continuing interest-levels in the
> various areas of the world in Hitler and his most ardent academic
> follower and fellow Nazi?
>
>
>
> regards,
>
> Jud Evans.
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