Discovery vs Disclosure
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Michael Eldred wrote:
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> Joseph Polanik http://what-am-i.net schrieb
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>>Michael Eldred wrote:
>>>ME: If the “physical being” does not show itself AS such-and-such,
>>>the “I” cannot discover it.
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>>the question is: did the inkblot show itself to be the bat or did you
>>discover the bat in the inkblot?
>ME: Here there are at least three steps that lead successively deeper
>into the ontological structure:
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>i) The viewer sees the ink-blot as (the representation of) a bat.
>(Presumably your example refers to the Rorschach-test sitiuation.)
>Insofar, the viewer also sees the ink-blot AS ink-blot and understands
>the difference between the ink-blot and (representation of) a bat.
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>ii) The viewer sees the ink-blot itself, ontologically prior to seeing
>it as (the representation of) a bat.
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>iii) More originarily, the viewer sees the ink-blot (and presumably
>also the piece of paper bearing the ink-blot) AS SOMETHING.
Yes, the viewer sees a bat in the inkblot; and, may or may not also see
the inkblot as an inkblot or, more abstractly, as a something; and, the
viewer may or may not have an opinion as to whether seeing the inkblot
is ontologically or chronologically prior to seeing the bat in the
inkblot; but, how does any of this prove that the inkblot has the power
of self-disclosure or explain where such a power comes from?
how would an inkblot get the power to detect a viewer’s personality
traits so that it would ‘know’ to show itself as a bat to those with one
personality quirk and as a tomato to those with some other personality
quirk?
>>how can a particle disclose its dynamic properties (eg its spin) when
>>those properties don’t even have definite values in between
>>observations of that property?
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>>did the number 3 disclose itself as a prime number; or, did some
>>ancient mathematician discover that three was a prime number?
>ME: Again you offer only an either-or choice between a subject
>discovering or a being disclosing itself. Why not both or why not a
>third alternative?
why not both? because that leads to an infinite regress. you are
claiming that I, this subject, can not discover what it, that object,
does not self-disclose. I then ask ‘how did I discover that this object
has the power of self-disclosure?’. you would have to reply that the
object has the power to self-disclose that it has the power of
self-disclosure. etc.
Joe
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Philosophy is, after all, done ultimately in the first person for the
first person. — H-N Castaneda
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