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michaelP schrieb Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:50:47 +0000:

> MichaelE (philosophy) versus JudE (sophism) brings this to bear:
>
> > ME: Precisely. Which only goes to show that the category of “something”
> > is ontologically PRIOR to “frog” and “lily-pad”, and NOT merely derived
> > (for convenience and by convention) from summing together all the
> > singular entities (which are ontologically invisible without the
> > category, “something”) into a convenient pop-up sign called “pronoun”.
>
> Precisely, Michael, which is why I have hesitated in calling the likes of
> something, anything, thing, etc, abstractions: they have precisely not been
> extracted, abstracted, generalised, drawn, modelled, etc, from this thing
> and that thing in some exercise of rough commonness, etc, etc. We always
> already have wind of thinghood, be-ing, stuffness, matter, etc, in order
> that we can ever (re)cognise this thing and that thing as this thing and
> that thing and as a thing at all; moreover, despite contrary claims (it will
> have nothing of be-ing and other ‘fictions’), science utterly depends for
> its dependability on this prior-ority of be-ing (which is no abstraction,
> rather is the most concrete). But that’s just me.
>
> regards (and a raised fist salute)
>

>From Plato’s Sophist [240b]:
_Xenos: ara to alaethinon ontoos on legoon;
Theaitaetos: houtoos._

“Stranger: Saying what is true is saying what really is.
Theaitaetos: Precisely.”

The _ontoos on_ is untranslatable into standard English, since _ontoos_ is the
abverb from ‘to be’, thus “beingly being”.
“The true [is] saying [what is] beingly being?”
“You bet.”

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