Einstein, Fascism and Zionism
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— Malcolm Riddoch wrote:
> No, again you’re conflating moral and ethical valuations with a
> problem concerning amoral relations of power. Are you just playing dumb?
No. I’m just trying to find out what your point is.
> > At least it’s a more interesting thesis than whether 100 people were,
> > or were not, killed in some village half a century ago.
>
> And then deftly dismissing the problem of the Palestinian diaspora
> which is where this thread started:
I’m trying to figure out if you are just engaging on the regular sport
of lets-beat-up-on-the-zionist-entity or you’re making a universal, or
possibly, ontological point.
> The question for me concerns whether humanity is in control of its
> destiny or whether modernity is a technological juggernaut heading
> towards resource wars for Lebensraum, as I suggested here:
Its the jump from the particular to the universal I’m having trouble
following. If you need a particular example for the universal, why
not find it somewhere more disinterested like Timor Leste or Congo
(4 million dead and counting) instead of in a conflict where most
readers will already have their prejudices decided by years of
bickering, and centuries of anti-semitism?
> Do amoral practical necessities of national survival and growth
> govern our way of life and constrain ours and our leaders choices for
> moral action?
I expect so.
> What about you Pete, if it came down to chronic fuel
> shortages, an economic depression, global war and the survival of
> your family would you vote for fascism?
Nah, I don’t think voting for fascism would be in the long term
interest of me or my family. I would vote for letting the market
decide. Let the actors bid up the price of energy. That would
create a natural market for new alternatives. Whale oil farms?
> Would you vote for military control of the Persian Gulf to
> sustain your way of life?
I would if physically controlling the Gulf was the only way to
keep them from flying into local buildings, and otherwise impinging
on my way of life, but not to control access to oil. Filthy stuff.
I wrote my Masters thesis on wind turbine airfoils. Sadly I
couldn’t persue that career because oil was too cheap.
