Einstein, Fascism and Zionism
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On 03/06/2006, at 10:43 PM, Anthony Crifasi wrote:
>> Universal: we are all constrained by relations of power that
>> constantly override any moral considerations, there is no
>> ‘exceptionalism’.
>
> I could point out that you lace all your “power” analyses with
> morally loaded terms (”murder your neighbor’s children,” “murder,
> rape and dispossession”), thereby making clear that your “power”
> analysis functions as a vehicle for your moral judgments. And once
> your interlocutor points this out, you immediately reply that
> relations of power are amoral and override any moral
> considerations, and ask why your interlocutor has “moral feelings”
> about the terms you use - terms such as “murder your neighbor’s
> children,” “murder, rape and dispossession” etc etc.
The point here dear Anthony is that you are the one morally loading
the terms “murder, rape and dispossession”, they are also legal
terms, historical terms, descriptive terms and the terms of my
argument. I understand you don’t want to take part in that discussion
so calm down and stop spamming me.
> No, when there are other examples of “relations of power” in the
> world of which the moral connotations are not in dispute between
> you and your interlocutor (i.e., which all agree constitute
> *murdering* neighbor’s children and rape - such as Pete’s example
> above), then in *dialogue* about power relation, why not use those
> instead - if, that is, you’re really only interested in analyzing
> relations of power. Which of course you’re not.
Ummmmm…. what? Trying to moderate me on this list is beyond
pointless Anthony as I will write as I see fit and I invite all list
members to do the same.
>>>> Would you vote for military control of the Persian Gulf to
>>>> sustain your way of life?
>
> Prime example of Malcolm’s m.o. (yeah I know, “Do you have moral
> feelings about that sentence….)
It’s a practical question Anthony, a hypothetical. In your everyday
life as a citizen of the US supported by the most energy intensive
national infrastructure on earth with by far the highest per capita
consumption of energy, if that life you’ve made with your family was
threatened by peak oil would you knowingly vote for a president to
extend the war in the Persian Gulf?
I’m not taking the piss here, I’d actually be interested in your answer.
>> Wait until the Goldman Sachs super spike hits, $US150/barrel,
>> then dust off your old masters thesis. I think sustainable energy
>> tech is going to be a very strong growth industry and eventually
>> a matter of national emergency. We’ve barely begun to feel the
>> effects of this growing energy crisis and look where we are - an
>> illegal war in the Middle East with over 100 000 dead, extra-
>> judicial assassinations, detention and torture, middle classes
>> drowning in debt, retired generals mutiny, a US congress eating
>> itself alive
>
> Prime example #2. (next reply: “And the point is …. what exactly?”)
What is the point of any reply to a post? For me it’s the open ended
question of the next reply, and so on, and in this case above it was
about the situation today as I saw it, how about you?
Cheers,
Malcolm
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Dr Malcolm Riddoch
Electronic Arts
School of Communications and Contemporary Arts
Faculty of Communications and Creative Industries
Edith Cowan University, 2 Bradford St, Mount Lawley
Perth Western Australia
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