Existence or Self-Existence?**
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In a message dated 6/2/2008 6:45:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jPolanik at nc.rr.com writes:
>jPolanik@nc.rr.com writes:
>>traditionally, ’self-existence’ is ascribed only to god.
>>self-existence is “Inherent existence; existence possessed by virtue
>>of a being’s own nature, and independent of any other being or cause;
>>– an attribute peculiar to God.”
>> http://thinkexist.com/dictionary/meaning…]
>>surely when you said that ‘I remain self-identical throughout all my
>>perceptions’ is ‘a necessary condition of my existence’ you weren’t
>>speaking as God. so not all existence is self-existence. so maybe you
>>should tell us whether you’ve redefined your terms or decided to
>>retool your argument or what
>”Self-existence” has little to do with “existence” mainly because
>*autos* has to do with God and man in the “image” of God. Accordingly,
>a notion of self-existence is identical to non-existence or Self prior
>to its dasein or what Anaximander called the *apocrisis* (of apieron).
>This state of “no-thing” (as undifferentiated ousia) Aristotle
>understood as pure potential and which is, as prima materia, pure
>essence or state of unqualified Being.
it may be that the undifferentiated ousia is not a thing; but, unless it
is nothing at all, it would be self-existent in that it stands out from
nothingness by its own power or thru its own nature as prima materia.
Joe
Yes, and that would relate it to the primum mobile as immovable mover, aka
“God.” In this sense it represents the Actus Purus as identical to potentia in
and by itself and which, as such, is “no-thing” or that “body” (ousia, materia
prima) that is without existence. In this way God as pure potentia and actus
purus has no existence except, of course, with the event of the Incarnation
that is as foreign to Aristotle and the pre-Socratic philosophers as it is for
Heidegger, Husserle or, for that matter, Jung because reduceable to
phenomenology, e.g., the Spirit in and by itself (qua Hegel).
Bernard
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June 8th, 2008 at 9:31 am
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