Heidegger

In a message dated 26/10/2006 00:28:51 GMT Standard Time, Bernx at aol.com
writes:
In a message dated 24/10/2006 bernx at aol.com writes:

JUD EVANS: (ORIGINALLY)
Theaetetus remembers having heard that knowledge is true judgement
accompanied by Logos (an account) adding that only that which has Logos (an account) can
be known. I tend to agree with this one, for to me knowledge is justified
[verified] true belief. I also agree with the repetitional theory of causation a
la Hume - but I understand it differently in that *causality* does not exist -
but only the causal objects involved in such repetitional impingement exist.

BERNARD BOVASSO:
Then are you saying repetitional impingement does not exist so that causality
which indicates process is dismissed in favour of a “causal object.”

JUD EVANS:
Yes, - EXACTLY! I am saying that repetitional impingement (The *Regularity
Theory* in “Causation,) “does NOT exist - and neither does *process,* and that
only regularly repetitional impinging causal objects really exist. Neither
*process* nor *Cause* nor *change* do not exist - only processant, causal and
changing objects exist
BERNARD BOVASSO
Now you REAL_LY have me confused. Cause and change (that do not, of course,
exist) but *only processant, causal and changing objects exist* somehow slipped
process. which does not exist. to qualify causal and changing objects [that
do] excist. Apparently you have two left (sinestra) feet.
BERNARD BOVASSO:
Yes, of course, if you ban a concept of concept as something existant. But
then, does the extant exist if at all predicated as a unit of existance?
JUD EVANS:
If you can slip some *causation’ and a bit of *process* in a jiffey-bag and
mail it over here - I promise to make both of us multi-millionaires
BERNARD BOVASSO
We will do better at market if we include a baked processant.
JUD EVANS
There are no *units of existence. [Neither are there any Leibnizean Monads -
that is all a load of Gonads.*]
BERNARD BOVASSO
I suppose you are right since gonads do not exist except as the property of
dear ole Mum.But for a pair neither does her sonny boy exist.
JUD EVANS
*Existence* and other such masturbatorium fantasies are a left over from the
whacking-off cells that Henry Vlll closed in 1536, Henry had ordered that
Thomas Cromwell, his Vicar-General, carry out an audit of the monasteries, which
he did with four men in just six months. Cromwell reported ‘Manifest sin,
vicious, carnal and abominable living is daily used and committed amongst the
little and small abbeys.’
BERNARD BOVASSO
Sounds like butcher Cromwell was either cheating in his work or confessing
himself to the liberated Henry VIII, the only liberated man in merry old England.
JUS EVANS
It makes horrendous reading. They kicked out the monks and the strong smell
of smegnum and the used condoms made from the intestines of sheep disappeared
over night.-the report says that most of them were swallowed by the goats [one
of which choked to death] that were used in those days a four-legged
lawnmowers.
BERNARD BOVASSO
Well, I suppose, every sniffer smells his own.That’s one way to get your goat
for a well manicured lawn. Just don’t leave your knickers in the garden.
JUD EVANS:
In order to help you grasp the idea we could say that *cause* and *object*
are *consubstantial.* I use this fiction only as an ideational rundle which you
can step upon then kick away when you have risen to understand the concept,
for I do not wish it to be thought that *cause* or *change* REALLY exist - even
consubstantially.
BERNARD BOVASSO
Then I fail to see why you must use an analog to predicate an analogy. Such
consubtanciality merely leads to a tautological self-predication, circulo in
probandus.
JUD EVANS:
BRAVO! At last you’ve got it! It’s a tautological predication. look further
down this page…* Subject and predicate are reflectant mirror images of each
other….ALL COSMIC OBJECTS EXIST THIS WAY - so an adjectival description is
a redundancy - to say *All objects are changing objects* is tautologous, in
that logically the statement is necessarily true - for there would be no object
to speak of if it were not changeable or causal and change and object are
*sine qua non* or essential conditions or elements and indispensable entiatic
modalities of unity we call a causal object and its actual existing as an objects.
BERNARD BOVASSO
There you go again swallowing the predicate, which of course does not exist,
in the hollow (say *hungry*) object which if not fed in regular fashion would
join the corp of whatever does not exist. You sound like the circumcised guy
who claims fore skins like five skins do not exist. Tell that to one of my
stoic Roman ancestors and they will laugh you off the playing field.
JUD EVANS
If ALL butterflies in the cosmos were two-headed butterflies and there were
no other butterflies with no head, one head or more than two heads - it would
be a redundANCY - A NEEDLESS tautologous waste of breath to call them
*two-headed butterflies* - GEDDIT? No? Yes? Don’t know?
BERNARD BOVASSO
But of course. Yet there would be no redundancy since butterflies with a
single head do not exist. Yet, a two headed buterfly in your stomach might be a
problem.
JUD EVANS
David Lewis notes that Hume gave this definition of “cause” as follows.
First, Hume said that “we may define a cause to be an object followed by another,
and where all objects similar to the first are followed by objects similar to
the second.” We may call analyses of causation that follow this general
strategy “regularity analyses.”
BERNARD BOVASSO
But again, either you or Hume are falling back on the analytic to frame a
definition of causation.
JUD EVANS:
ME! Define *causation?* Not guilty governor - I don’t even believe it exists
- so how could I possibly *define* it?
BERNARD BOVASSO
Well, then, that is your definition. Nothing wrong in that if you live in the
wonderland of
No, No and two left feet..
JUD EVANS
Do you want me to define the seven-headed wurble-greech that lives in the
roll of a scrunger’s foreskin on the planet Skrink?
BERNARD BOVASSO You already have, in the above, and I much appreciate it.
Indeed, with seven heads it would need more than fours skins. Why do you
think they all illegally migrated to the USA? They suddenly reakized that all
skins are alike once they leave the head.
BERNARD BOVASSO:
….by which it serves as in the logic of class formation, i.e., collecting
all objects similia and discarding their differences, the qualia, as it were.
The class of similiars then stands as a necessary (logical) fiction whereas the
discarded qualia in difference are in fact what qualifies the object in
existence.
JUD EVANS:
Qualia? Classes? How could ANYONE *discard* the *differences* betwixt a ripe
Worcestershire plum and a Tom Thumb Draft Horse’s snaffle-bit where no
*difference* exists? Surely only the ripe Worcestershire plum and a Tom Thumb Draft
Horse’s snaffle-bit exist? No? If yes, please slip some *difference* in the
jiffey-bag along with the *causation’ and the bit of *process* before you mail
it over here - it will save on postage - and make us both mega-rich.
BERNARD BOVASSO
No, difference will require two bags full.
JUD EVANS
I can see the TV Adverts now - *Wanna be Different? Fed up being the same old
You? Send for some *BOVASSO’S DIFFERENCE DELIGHT - AND BECOME A NEW EXCITING
YOU OVERNIGHT. Go to bed with cracked and broken teeth and wake up with a Tony
Blair Tooth-job [free flick-knife and red *kill-button* included] Special
Autumn Offer - Second-hand Differences. Half price breast jobs if you accept the
*before* breasts before the insertion of the tit-bag.
Hurry while stocks last!
BERNARD BOVASSO
Don’t worry about it. This is the USA and where all the differences are made
in the Peoples’ Democracy of China. There’ nothing wrong with second-hand
differences that can be safely lubricated with some third hand causation grease..
JUD EVANS
I noticed a long time ago that we can quickly make the cognitive link by the
observation of the repetitional effects of two random objects coming together.
I noticed it first when I used to take my kids to nursery and watch them as
they added to their a posteriori knowledge of causal objects by manipulating
coadundate, interlocking, coloured building blocks. If they persevered pushing
two together they clicked and *caused * the ensuant bi-partite object to
*become* (say) the arch over a doorway in a toy house etc. Learning to predict the
causal-effectional outcomes of ergodic - or stochastic random impingements, (I
call it identifying the *catenulate accountability*) where no previous,
impingemental or antecedal interactive model has been formerly experienced to
predict values, is a PART OF THE WAY WE DEVELOP AS HUMANS - from the time that we
are born.
BERNARD BOVASSO
Then you are using the nature of resemblance, which in fact is a simulational
fiction to predicate something in existence? Memesis, however cannot verify
*previous, impingemental or antecedal interactive model.* Otherwise you have
conceded the existential necessity of a fiction (myth, metaphor, analog,
allegory) or otherwise the nature of a symbolical REALITY.

JUD EVANS:
Existential necessity of a fiction? I don’t quite understand Bernard - are
you suggesting what I THINK you are suggesting - that a fiction is either
existentially necessary or unnecessary - You mean the Angel of Mons actually
existed?
I am not talking about religious fictions Bernard - I’m not talking about
weeping wax Madonnas I’m talking about CAUSAL OBJECTS the kind of things that
when you stub your toe on one it [the toe] HURTS. The kind of thing like a heavy,
wooden toilet seat, that when you are having a pee and it drops guys like you
get SERIOUSLY HURT - in other words the kind of objects that you can feel,
touch, see, hear and if you smell them sometimes cause you to sneeze.
BERNARD BOVASSO
That would never do when I am sniffing the angel of Mums high up on its pubic
hill. .
JUD EVANS
We utter a cry of discomfort and food is felt in our mouths - we learn that
such an expellation of air from the voice-box CAUSES milk to be available via a
maternal nipple or a rubber teat. Soon, following regular feeding, we learn
that the teat in the mouth *causes* milk to run down our throats. Thus,
incrementally we become acquainted with Hume’s *Regularity Theory* of * causation,*
which for the eliminativist has become the *regularity theory of causal
objects.*
BERNARD BOVASSO
Yet, the foetus is known to in utero to suck its thumb.
JUD EVANS:
I have loads of scan-photos of my [youngest] number 9- offspring Marius
sucking his thumb in the womb [very clear ones.]
BERNARD BOVASSO:
But no milk comes out of a thumb or ever will.
JUD EVANS:
SO that’s THE REASON HE KICKED THE HELL OUT OF MY WIFE’S STOMACH?
BERNARD BOVASSO
No, no, umbilically well fed he was just trying to get out fully aware that
it may take seventy years to do so, if ever.
BERNARD BOVASSO:
In other words the act of sucking an erectile something precedes the
empirical act Only post partum does the idea dawn on the infant that the act of
sucking, which for you does not exist, is what, *consubstancial?* with object (milk)
that does exist.
JUD EVANS:
Oh no Bernard - the empirical in utero existential mode of thumb-sucking,
which precedes the empirical act of breast-sucking is part of the same
INSTINCTUAL process - a genetically inherited instinct…
BERNARD BOVASSO
Go stand in the corner with Freud and Jung the better to doodle your genetic
recapitulations. You are old enough to know there is no such thing as
instinctual process.
JUD EVANS…..that is rather like that of a puppy-dog, which is born with
an instinct which determines that it turns round and round before it sits
down - for originally as being a species of animals of the grasslands, that did
this to flatten the grass into a comfortable ‘bed* and in order to be less
visible to predators. That is EXACTLY what the doctor said [about human
babies and dogs] WHEN WE ASKED HIM.
BERNARD BOVASSO
That may be true for grassland babies. Does your doctor know the difference
between babies and puppies? If not I will send him a package of difference with
some causation sauce.
BERNARD BOVASSO:
You have then merely dissolved your so-called fiction of adjectorial
predication in the object.
JUD EVANS:
I haven’t *dissolved anything Bernard - the only thing I ever dissolve is an
aspro in water when another Nazi speech by Heidegger arrives in the mail.
The IS NO adjectival *predication* to dissolve - there is no gradual
transition from one existential modality of existing as a causal object and then NOT
existing as a causal object - if a causal object did not exist in the mode of
a causal object it [and no object in the cosmos] could exist in the first
place. causal object to another to the next; the next scene is gradually
superimposed as the former scene fades out
BERNARD BOVASSO
Better check out the notions of the physicist David Bohm and his idea of
simultaneity and non-locality.
BERNARD BOVASSO:
Has the object changed, accordingly? Does the hidden, concealed or Lethe
state of being or non being, whatever you choose, magically or metaphysically act
on the object? Of course it does, if the human faculty of empathic projection
takes place.
JUD EVANS:
Empathetic projection? *Lethe state? *Louisiana Lethe* [well known capitalist
*dog of war*] has become a dangerous frotteur and pest on the St Petersburg
Underground. [Metro.] The ‘controllers’ are losing control of the fight to an
invisible enemy, powerless to stop someone from killing their users.
Player-priests are being lured from their masturbatoriums into a sea of black ice
[imported from Nigeria], causing their scabrous bodies to flat line. The Sea of
Galilee is frozen over and Dr. Klaus Oeggl, a botanist from the University of
Innsbruck has identified the Ice Man as Jesus Christ caught out in a sudden storm
on a mountain top whilst fleeing from Mary Magdalene’s Phoenician pimp. Real
life phenomenologists are facing the reality of a serial killer called Freddy
Swastika-hands Heidegger, who may be a copy cat or the re-emergence of the
notorious Hysterectomy Husserl the Gentile-Jewish nightmare. The Neo-Nazi press
are having a field day, while the virtual community are beginning to close
ranks and trade in their Kennedy-style easy-open-flap underpants for new
skid-proof versions. For the first time since the bust up in ‘Big Bang at Baltimore
Berth’s Brothel ‘ Louisiana Lethe is having to justify his *existence* as a
hermaphrodite prostitute with a double-barrelled asshole in Freiburg Student’s
Union by servicing the whole of the philosophy department during the 15-minute
afternoon break.
BERNARD BOVASSO:
Wow! You got more on your mind besides a loaded vagina. Just don’t pull the
trigger, yet.
Sincerely;
Bernard

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