Heidegger

—– Original Message —–
From: “peter k”

> Nino- you wog- In fact although it was a while ago now I do know my way
> around Heidegger- Husserl- Schultz- Hegel, but when I write about
> Heidegger
> I tend to like to do a lot of preparatory reading, because unless your an
> expert like Malcom, BT is ‘how shall I put it’ like a basket full of
> Garfinkel’s ethnomethodological ‘breech’ experiments, and thus
> discursively
> very subtle and difficult. Its helps to have read the “End of Philosophy”
> where he outlines the basis for BT, regarding Roman mis-translations of
> originary Greek texts regarding ‘ousia’ presence- or presencing,
> ‘aletheia’,
> ‘ereignis’, all this is just off the top of my head so I’m sure an expert
> like you will set me straight- or someone from the list- because maybe its
> a bit beyond a dago like yourself.

Speaking of racial slurs, here are some more “interesting quotes” by Jews on
the Catholic Church, Pius XII, and the Nazis:

“Pacelli [the future Pope Pius XII] had obviously established his position
clearly, for the Fascist governments of both Italy and Germany spoke out
vigorously against the possibility of his election to succeed Pius XI in
March of 1939, though the cardinal secretary of state had served as papal
nuncio in Germany from 1917 to 1929. . . . The day after his election, the
Berlin Morgenpost said: ‘The election of cardinal Pacelli is not accepted
with favor in Germany because he was always opposed to Nazism and
practically determined the policies of the Vatican under his predecessor.’”
(Dr. Joseph Lichten, a Polish Jew who served as a diplomat and later an
official of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith)

“[Pius XI] had good reason to make Pacelli the architect of his anti-Nazi
policy. Of the forty-four speeches which the Nuncio Pacelli had made on
German soil between 1917 and 1929, at least forty contained attacks on
Nazism or condemnations of Hitler’s doctrines. (Former Israeli diplomat and
now Orthodox Jewish Rabbi Pinchas Lapide)

“The people of Israel will never forget what His Holiness and his
illustrious delegates, inspired by the eternal principles of religion which
form the very foundations of true civilization, are doing for us unfortunate
brothers and sisters in the most tragic hour of our history, which is living
proof of divine Providence in this world.” (Isaac Herzog, Chief Rabbi of
Jerusalem, in a personal letter to the pope, February 28, 1944)

“It is not easy for us to find the right words to express the warmth and
consolation we experienced because of the concern of the supreme pontiff,
who offered a large sum to relieve the sufferings of deported Jews. . . .
The Jews of Romania will never forget these facts of historic importance.”
(Rabbi Safran of Bucharest, Romania, in a note of thanks to the papal
nuncio, April 7, 1944)

“What the Vatican did will be indelibly and eternally engraved in our
hearts. . . . Priests and even high prelates did things that will forever be
an honor to Catholicism.” (Israel Zolli, Chief Rabbi of Rome in a statement
of thanks)

“We share the grief of the world over the death of His Holiness Pius XII. .
.. . During the ten years of Nazi terror, when our people passed through the
horrors of martyrdom, the Pope raised his voice to condemn the persecutors
and to commiserate with their victims” (Golda Meir, Israeli representative
to the U.N. and future prime minister of Israel, in her eulogy at the
funeral of Pius XII in 1958).

“With special gratitude we remember all he has done for the persecuted Jews
during one of the darkest periods in their entire history” (Nahum Goldmann,
president of the World Jewish Congress, at the funeral of Pius XII).

“More than anyone else, we have had the opportunity to appreciate the great
kindness, filled with compassion and magnanimity, that the Pope displayed
during the terrible years of persecution and terror” (Elio Toaff, Chief
Rabbi of Rome).

“Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution came in Germany, I looked to
the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their
devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the universities immediately were
silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers whose flaming
editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they,
like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks… only the Church
stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing truth. I
never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great
affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and
persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced
thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly. (Albert
Einstein, quoted in Time Magazine, December 23, 1940, p. 38)

“The final number of Jewish lives in whose rescue the Catholic Church had
been the instrument is thus at least 700,000 souls, but in all probability
it is much closer to … 860,000.” (Rabbi Pinchas E. Lapide, ‘Three Popes
and the Jews’, pp 227-228).

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And if you don’t believe Jews (for whatever reason), then believe the Nazis
themselves:

“To be sure the Vatican does express itself in general terms, but it is
totally clear who is meant.” (Baron von Weizsacker, German ambassador to
the Vatican during the War, January 1940, quoted in Dieter Albrecht,
Katholische Kirche im Dritten Reich, Mainz, 1976, p. 187).

“Pacelli has already made himself prominent by his attacks on National
Socialism during his tenure as Cardinal Secretary of State, a fact which
earned him the hearty approval of the Democratic States during the papal
elections. . . . How much Pacelli is celebrated as an ally of the
Democracies is especially emphasized in the French Press.” (Report by the
Reich’s Chief Security Service on Pacelli after he was elected pope,
excerpted by Pinchas Lapide)

“Catholic believers carry away but one impression from attendance at divine
services and that is that the Catholic Church rejects the institutions of
the Nationalist State.” (Hermann Goering, 1935)

“The Pope has repudiated the National Socialist New European Order. His
speech is one long attack on everything we stand for. God, he says, regards
all peoples and races as worthy of the same consideration. Here he is
clearly speaking in behalf of the Jews and makes himself the mouthpiece of
the Jewish war criminals.” (German SS analysis of Pius XII’s 1942 Christmas
broadcast)

> Mostly, I just like to browse on this list.
> And discursively speaking, being a Jew, Jud has a case regarding the
> marginalization of BT- for a Jew, discursively speaking, BT would just be
> blank page after blank page. I do not expect you to understand this, but
> for
> posterity’s sake, there it is. My spell checker has disappeared, and yes,
> I
> spell very poorly so don’t bother pointing this out. You can keep writing
> to
> me as much as you like Nino because I never get tired, mostly because I
> inkject bucket loads of amphetamines.

Good, because I have quite a few more pages of quotes for you, if you’re
wired enough to read them all.

Posted on Friday, May 26th, 2006 at 1:25 am
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