Heidegger

On 29/05/2006, at 10:26 PM, GEVANS613@aol.com wrote:

Malcolm:

 In Heidegger’s Germany the Fuehrer Prinzep was just such an
organizational principle, a rather chaotically dynamic one that brought its
own law and order to Germany and beyond. 

Jud:

Organisational principle?  Mmmmmm!  It seemed also to be a
way of organising lots of folk into gas-chambers
too.

Well duh, you would need to have some sort of organizational principle to
handle the European wide logistics and industrial construction of the big
death camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau don’t you think?

 

Jud:

Who better suited for than the  blond Arbeiter-Ameisen des
Vaterlandes?  Vee haf veys off gedding you in das cattletrucken!

 

Malcolm:

I know you like to set yourself up as some sort of anti-Heideggerean
crusader bringing the light of your crusade to enlighten us ignorant
Heideggereans but none of this is new.

 

Jud:

For some Heideggerians it is not in my humble ex-colonialist opinion a
question of  *knowing* of the information that Heidegger’s bosum pal
was the equally [possible even more] grotesque philosopher/anthropologist of
race-hate Fischer, but of *being affected and thinking of the implications* of
such a revelation. By the way it is fairly hot news [about the closeness of
the ghoulish relationship] where did you come by it?

 

Heidegger and Fischer  stuck to like shit to a blanket to each
other  all throughout those wistful Holderlin/Nietszche years, as the
armies of avenging Jewry, whipped up, according to the oracle of Delphi [sorry
-  Antwerp]  by the evil toadies of Zionism Churchill and
Roosevelt.

 

 Anyway they scuttled to different rat-holes as the Sherman
Jewmobiles rattled their  tracks nearer and nearer to the lunatic asylum
where Heidegger was holed up, until the glass morphine vials fairly rattled in
Goering’s bathroom cabinet. They met up again and exchanges Christmas cards in
which they congratulated themselves on escaping the the immediate post-war
swing-time.  I don’t mean the swingtime of the young American regimental
jazz groups either - I’m talking lanppost type swingtime.

 

Malcolm

 I do in fact fully understand your concerns regarding Heidegger’s
Nazism because his involvement is actually a research interest of mine.

 

Jud:

Wonderful - a shared interest! Why not share some of your finds? I’ll
swop you a *call for mass extermination,* for one of your *gloating over
photographs of the camps* finds? BTW  anectdotal *Dressed in Nazi
Uniforn* sightings arn’t worth much nowadays [glutted market] but a good clear
photo of him posing like Hitler could bring you a pretty penny in the right
quarters.

 

Malcolm:

I think Heidegger’s deeply philosophical engagement with what he saw as
the essence of Nazism is a remarkable insight into the inner workings of its
ideology and also the historical circumstances that brought it to power.

 

Jud:

I find Heidegger’s deeply philosophical engagement with what he saw as
the essence of Nazism more of  a remarkable insight into the inner
workings of HIS ideology and also the historical circumstances that
brought HIS to power. We all know already about the Nazism bit - it’s HIS
Nazism bit that

philsophers of Heideggerianisn should address more closely than they have
done in the past in my opinion.

BTW - Faye [I have heard] gives out a lot of stuff about the Nazi
influence on Heidegger’s *philosophical* work, which is something I sensed and
detected after the firat few pages of Basic Concepts [thanks to MichaelP for
posting it at the time - I bet he regrets it now?)

 

I just CANNOT understand why they didn’t rush in to print with an English
addition as soon a they wittnessed the French sell-outs and capitaise on the
anti-Heideggerian feeling [at least 3 to 4-thousand of my average 100-thousand
visitors visit the Anti-Heidegger section.  I should really contact
Faye’s publishers and advertise the book on my site, but I vowed from the
start that my visitors wouldn’t be plagued with advertising, and the academics
I publish there are happier not being associated with money-making.

 

Jud:

But that historical context implicates all us moderns, not just the
Germans but all of Europe, the Israeli’s, the Americans, the Russians,
Chinese, Australians and most especially you Brits and your former British
empire.

 

Jud:

You Brits?  You Brits? Its you lot who travelled over there either
in chains or as adventurers who went blackbird shooting [I think that is what
they called it?] not the British. The British comprised of a few regiments of
soldiers and a few government officers - the real nasty stuff was done by the
settlers - was it not?  You cannot blame the poor old Brits  - most
of us were up to our ankles in the filth of the industrial revolution at the
time and would not be able to point out Australia on a map [some still
can’t]

 

 

Jud: [at the still point of the turning world]

 

Which reminds me - I am right now struggling to translate  more
from the French of Prof. Faye of Paris University - and it seems they
have now dug up evidence [testimony] that as for Heidegger himself, it is
now proven that right up to the Allied Occupation, he kept ties,
narrow enough to frequently return his visits, with the raciologue
Eugen Fischer. It seems Little Herr Sweet didn’t sit by the side of the
river reading Hölderlin. as pure (Aryan]  white, cherry blossoms
drifted gently down, and the soft lowing and tinkling bells of the
cattle that could just be heard above the noisy metalic grinding
and shouts of the guards as  the Auswitz bound trains rounded
the tight curve in the track  on the hillside above the Hutte.

He was OTHERWISE
occupied!

Malcolm:

Cool, what texts specifically? And is there any indication what
Heidegger’s involvement with Fischer was beyond his being the Rector of Berlin
University? In fact wasn’t Fischer the second choice after Heidegger rejected
the job?

 

Jud:

Actually it is a text of an address that he gave [to a sell-out audience]
and the post-address  cross examination afterwards by Heideggerian
holocaust deniers and Dasein Queens  afterwards.  I will try to find
it again.  I found a few juicy-bits then junked it unwittingly.  It
is probably recorded by my PC *visited website record* -  it was a
dreaded PDF file which I hate I will try to relocate it if it might be
important to you?

 

 

Contrary to the popular assumptions about [German] concentration
camps, the first concentration camps actually happened in 1904-1907 in a
region of German South Africa which is part of present day Namibia. Led by
Lt. General Lothar von Trotha, the Germans of South West Africa began
placing a group of natives known as the Herero tribe into concentration
camps. Before the camps the Herero numbered 80,000 and after the camps
they numbered less than
15,000

Are they the first modern German concentration camps? I wonder if they
learnt anything from that butcher Kitchener’s terror campaign against the
Boers the decade before? The glorious British empire used scorched earth
tactics against Boer families of women, children and the elderly, and when
that didn’t work they used cattle trucks to transport 100 000 of them to the
various death camps where 30 000 died.

 

 

Jud:

Typhus actually.

The bastards who did this were Christian religious maniacs anyway - tThey
are ALWAYS relious - either God freaks or State God freaks.

Doesn’t matter what nation it is they are all the same.  That does
not let Heidegger off the Hitlerite hook one little bit.

Even the British, the Japanese, the Americans didn’t tatoo their arms
with numbers, gas them, then collect all the spectacles, false teeth,
umbrellas and even the women’s hair into neat piles only a race that spawned a
Heidegger is capable of that sort of orgainsied fiendishness.

But now as Omar Khayaam said *But evermore came out by the same door
where in I went.* for it brings us back to the orgainsied
fiendishness  you mentioned of  Heidegger’s Germany.  I
refer to the Fuehrer Prinzep.  I mean  was just such an
organizational principle - though he didn’t put the stuff about the heaps of
spectacles, false teeth, umbrellas and even the women’s hair into his
lectures,  though I am bloody sure he knew all about it with a inside man
friend like the fiendish Fischer.

 

XXVII
Myself when young did eagerly frequent
Doctor and Saint, and heard great argument
About it and about: but evermore
Came out
by the same door where in I went.

 

Malcolm:

 The brutal use of mass murder to terrorize and subjugate enemy
communities is hardly restricted to just the Germans is it Jud?

Us anglo nations of the “Coalition of the Willing” are still doing it
today in Iraq with perhaps 250 000 dead already.

 

Jud:

You know how I feel about it Malcolm.  Bush, Blair and your guy
should be in the dock at the Hague right now.

 

Jud:
(the caped crusader]