Pain
September 28th, 2006, search relatedRelated posts :: The Pain in Spain :: Pain :: Pain :: The Reification of Life as “War and pain.”
In a message dated 28/09/2006 21:12:23 GMT Standard Time, phil at thalasson.com
writes:
In article _GEVANS613 at aol.com_ (mailto:GEVANS613@aol.com) writes how does
this modern misunderstanding arise? I suggest here that it is because people
confuse the apparently obvious phenomenological EXISTENCE of the abstraction
‘pain,’ with ‘that which ACTUALLY EXISTS
There is no confusion. People are concerned with the everyday reality of
pain - what you call its *obvious phenomenological existence.* They are not
interested in your ontological theorising which is useless in the presence of
everyday reality.
Jud Evans
As a folk ontologist I appreciate that you obviously speak for your own kind
whose outlook you represent. I do not relate to the lumpen, Gorkyesque
lower-depths version of the folk ontologists, and neither do I care a flying fart
for WHAT they think, though I find the more intelligent, quick-witted folk
ontologists interesting. My intention is NOT TO CLAIM that such traumatised
people do not experience distress - and I am NOT ADDRESSING THEM anyway - I am
addressing the ontological question which the mangel-wurzel munching Bormann
of *Being* Heidegger failed to explore - what exists and what does not exist.
As usual you have TOTALLY MISUNDERSTOOD my deliberately chosen
tongue-in-cheek *come-on* phrase: *obvious phenomenological existence,’ [of pain] which is
my satirical version of your: *everyday reality of pain,* for any one on the
list with half a brain could spot it IMMEDIATELY as a classical EXAMPLE of
the well known British use of irony. Most would not have been taken in by it,
and could rush to point out to you at once that I do not even believe in or
accept that either *existence* or *phenomena* exists.
I was using the term to take the piss out of the naive brainwashed ontofolk
- *ontofolk* being an expression used in my university [and I have heard the
term employed in Manchester University too] to refer to the not-very-bright,
uneducated, skinhead version or [as the Americans would say] the trailer-park
variant of the more educated old fashioned folk ontologists.
There is always somebody for whom the penny does not drop very quickly, and
sadly yet again you rose lazily and half-consciously through the murky
melt-water of your metaphysics to the swizzle-bait which you took like a tired old
trout, uncertain any more as to even which way the dialogic current is
flowing these days in the deterministic River of No Return. 
Jud Evans.
