Plato Theaet. 155e
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Cologne 25-Sep-2006
ME: Socrates draws uncomfortable conclusions from the Protagorean
teaching that knowledge and perception are one and the same, i.e. that
individual perception is the measure for whether and what and how
something is:
Plato Theaet. 152d:
_…. hoos ara hen men auto kath’ hauto ouden estin, oud’ an ti
proseipois orthoos oud’ hopoionoun ti, all’ ean hoos mega prosagoreuaes,
kai smikron phaneitai, kai ean bary, kouphon, sympanta te houtoos, hoos
maedenos ontos henos maete tinos maete hopoiououn:_
“Socrates: …that nothing is itself one in itself, and you could not
rightly call anything whatsoever something or somehow [i.e. as being of
a certain quality], but if you call it large, it will also appear to be
small, and light if you call it heavy, and everything else in the same
way, since no being whatever is one nor is it something nor is it
somehow [i.e. of a certain quality];”
Later on, when Socrates is about to reveal the hidden truth of
Protagoras, he says:
Plato Theaet. 155e:
_Sokrates: Athrei dae periskopoon mae tis toon amuaetoon epakouaei.
Eisin de houtoi hoi ouden allo oiomenoi einai ae ou an dynoontai aprix
toin cheroin labesthai, praxeis de kai geneseis kai pan to aoraton ouk
apodechomenoi hoos en ousias merei.
Theaitaetos: Kai men dae, o Sokrates, sklaerous ge legeis kai [156a]
antitypous anthroopous._
“Socrates: Look round and see that none of the uninitiated is
listening. The uninitiated are those who think nothing is except what
they can grasp firmly with their hands, and who do not admit that
actions and generation and all that is invisible are a part of being.
Theaetetus: Truly, Socrates, those you speak of are very
sclerotic/stubborn [156a] and perverse people.”
The standard English translations have been modified to be closer to the
Greek constructions and to bring out the points more starkly.
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