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In a message dated 28/09/2006 10:37:05 GMT Standard Time, Bernx at aol.com
writes:

In a message dated 9/27/2006 6:06:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
GEVANS613 at aol.com writes:

(1) A typical intrusive impingement would be a deterministic coupling of
[say] causal object (a) - a rusty nail, and causal object (b) a human big toe.

(2) A typical intrinsic impingement would be a deterministic coupling of
[say] causal object (c) - a metastatic tumour or cancerous conglomerate of
malignant cells, exerting pressure on causal object (d) the surrounding human
hepatic tissue.

A persistent feature of folk psychology with its curious obsession to
gratuitously trowel-on additional ontological ooky-spooky *spirit-levels* is the
belief that *pain* like *love* or *beauty* is something that actually exists *a
la la-la Plato* ‘in itself.’ That half-wit loon Plato has a hell of a lot
to answer for the way he cocked-up western ontology for centuries and scuffing
off his philosophically enervating *ontological difference* is like trying
to scrape shit off a suede shoe.

So leaving the plonker Plato aside, how does this modern misunderstanding
arise? I suggest here that it is because people confuse the apparently obvious
phenomenological EXISTENCE of the abstraction ‘pain,’ with ‘that which
ACTUALLY EXISTS and deterministically causes THE TRAUMA - [the nail or the cancer]
and *that which deterministically UNDERGOES the tissue change known as
*trauma.* [the big toe or the liver tissue.]

BERNARD:
Accordingly, the nail, karkinos and Plato must be punished for their
transgressions and impounded wherever guilty objects are confined.

Jud:
Homocentric attribution of guilt does not make ontological sense when we
address insensate objects like a rusty nail. As for the *confiscation or
impounding* of metal, apart from bank raids, that sort of thing has not gone on in
Britain since 1941, when all the metal railings around public buildings,
parks and private homes all over the country were cut down, melted and made into
guns and bombs and ships etc., during WWII to fight against Heidegger and his
murderous Nazi hoodlum countrymen. Neither is trauma and mortality the
fault of cancer cells, for the painful trauma humans experience when the
burgeoning tumours press against healthy tissue. As for Plato who was both an
oncological and ontological embarrassment for European thinking - it would be better
for western philosophy had he never been born. But on second thoughts, he
does have some interest as a philosophical museum-piece I suppose?

regards,

Jud Evans.
Personal Website: http://evans-experientialism.freewebspac…

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