[polemos] Israel & the Liars Lobby
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From: “That Pete”
To: “Discussions pertaining to the philosophy of Martin Heidegger”
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [polemos] Israel & the Liars Lobby
> — bob scheetz wrote:
> >
> > > There was something called “land for peace”; Israel withdrew from
Lebanon
> > > and Gaza in exchange for peace? Remember that?
> >
> > Israel “withdrew” keeping control of the borders, air and sea, keeping
> > control of the taxes and indeed, just keeping them, directing its
client
> > bush regime to impose a financial blockade, strangling them. Meanwhile
it
> > continued its apache-hellfire murders, and abductions, and
shelling, -the wk
> > previous killing a family of six on the beach. In every meaningful
sense
> > the occupation continued and intensified, …only difference, on the
cheap.
> > Trouble is I remember it all, you only cant the Lobby’s lies.
>
> But I can tell yours!
>
> Israel withdrew, one would expect a reciprocal gesture. Instead, the
> response was “Look we defeated them” and piling with more attacks.
> The cutting off of taxes and bloackade did not follow the withdrawal,
> but instead followed the election of Hamas. By electing a group committed
> to the extermination of the zionist entity, the voters put an end
> to the fiction that there are the common people, who only want peace,
> and a few nasties who carry out terrorist acts. After decades
> indoctrination by the PLO, Hamas, et al, the people left there appear
> to want nothing but more violence. They regularly parade their
> children with their toy bomb belts and guns, and talk about how they
> aspire for their martyrdom, for one set of cameras, so I don’t take
> their lamentation for the other audience as being very sincere. The
> Israeli shelling of Gaza follows the launching of missiles from
> Gaza into Israel. The killing of the family on the beach happened,
> after the shelling stopped, there was no crater (expected whereever
> an artillery shell explodes) and Hamas made the hospitals remove all
> the shrapnel from the victims before they were handed over to Israeli
> hospitals. So they are obviously lying about what happened.
> Why are you? Do you live in Gaza? Why aren’t you writing about the
> violence in Sri Lanka or southern Thailand? Is because there isn’t
> a Zionist entity involved? Isn’t that the common thread here? There
> is violence in many places, but when violence can be blamed on the
> Zionist entity and the USA, it leads certain types to parrot the
> terrorists’ agitprop to this list.
obviously you’ve got a strong stomach, capable of swallowing even the
grossest IDF (trying to claim now that it wasn’t them dropped a thousand
pound precision bomb on the house in Cana) lies. So let’s just set aside the
massacre on the beach. What about the 6/20 hellfire attempt on a car on the
road between Jabalya and Gaza City, which missed, killing 3 children and
wounding 15? Or the 6/15 hellfire attempt killing 9? Did the Gazans
commit these too? And this is only the immediate time period with the June
28 Palestinian “act of aggression” that the official world is claiming gives
Israel the right to defend herself.
As for the hatred of the Palestinians for Israel, it’s so patently
reasonable from the historical crime committed against them and aggravated
hourly by the continued Israeli annexations and humiliations, that it were
morally disgusting were they otherwise, cheerfully accepting of the gangster
regime’s dispensation for them.
As for “why not Sri Lanka or south Thailand? read Mearsheimer & Walt.
Setting aside moral outrage (which clearly has no force with you) at the
long-standing injustice to the poor, defenseless original inhabitants of
Palestine, the excruciating misery being inflicted on the poor, defenseless
Iraqis at the instance of the Lobby, and now the Palestinians and Lebanese,
and likely soon to be their hoped for expansion of it to Syria & Iran,
there’s the hard practical effect on my material standard of living, e.g.
the sight of my greatly hoped for national health care program being used
instead to sex torture Iraqi freedom fighters, lay waste Fallujah, or fry
Lebanese babies, while Israel has first class national health care, is more
than a little exasperating. …and if that’s not enuf, the piece de
resistance in this orwellian hell, here’s Mel Gibson forced to apologize.
