Heidegger

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Van: heidegger-bounces at soca.ecu.edu.au
[mailto:heidegger-bounces@soca.ecu.edu.au]Namens That Pete
Verzonden: maandag 12 juni 2006 16:03
Aan: Discussions pertaining to the philosophy of Martin Heidegger
Onderwerp: Re: Polemos - Pearl Harbor

— Malcolm Riddoch wrote:
> If you three are completely incapable of contributing to this
> discussion beyond your ill informed and obnoxious insults and troll
> baiting I’d appreciate it if you could stop spamming me and leave
> this space open for others. I’m interested in rational, well reasoned
> responses to the historical interpretations I’ve posited, whether
> that’s in the form of specific challenges to the historical
> documentation I’ve provided from Einstein and Arendt through to the
> US Republican Party’s Congressional response to Pearl Harbor, or any
> of the philosophical possibilities these open up with respect to
> Heidegger’s critique of power.

I stepped into this by pointing out that if you want to point out
something new and interesting about Heidegger’s way of thinking
related to what goes on the world, it was getting lost in the
rhetorical antipathy to America and others. You then claimed there
wasn’t any antipathy, but that what I took for such, was in fact
the reality of the case, and that this you could in fact demonstrate
by demonstrating that Bush brought down the wtc towers. When I asked
to dig into the evidence you presented to back this up, you then
switched to Pearl Harbour, and accuse me of not persuing the subject.

To me the interesting thing here is the parallel between your
rhetoric and Rene’s. There’s the assertion that one’s thinking
is fully aligned with Heidegger’s, along with the expression of
much antipathy. When I ask for an elaboration of this line of
interpretation of Heidegger, the reply is just more antipathy,
this time including myself as the target.

> This is a university sponsored philosophical discussion list and your
> constant recourse to ad hominem insults and logically challenged
> reactionary populism while steadfastly refusing to rationally deal
> with any of the tabled propositions is effectively an attempt at
> shutting down open discussion and will no doubt be discouraging
> others from contributing. I do not take any of your accusations or
> insults lightly, they are in fact defamatory. If you have nothing
> further to offer to this discussion thread then please cease and desist.

You’re the host.

That would be too easy. If it is the case that we are in a phase
in which everything is turned upside down, things are getting really
difficult, esp. after the decades (centuries) of decadence.
That people now get into embaressment and silence - which is really the
case, and not anyone’s achievement - that might be more important
than chattering on. As said, there is nothing personal, how can there be,
and That Pete, Anthony, also BobG are asked to stay, at least by me.
Others, who have held glorious standpoints, and have thrown all kinds of
maledictions, for instance re prophetic capabilities, seem to have
disappeared silently, and if that is the case, that indicates their level.
There is, however things will go, only one thing to do, and that is the
creation of inequality, unfreedom, difference between those who speak.
But not by authority, or any power, but by sthing else, which might become
clearer all along.

For now, we are getting through a necessary phase, the demolition of America
all along with its world order, as it was considered to be; it is all very
different, so what now. The responsibility is enormous, and the American
intellectuals are now moving, or they will never.
If you do not manage to move an inch, then this will appear of itself, and you
will disappear automatically. One thing seems to be past already, and that is
the utter arbitrarity and auto-destructive of ‘freedom’. So, instead of victim,
the uS has been the main actor, of course, it cannot have been else, and would
i=the US not have existed, then it should have been invented. Eh, it has been
discovered. Well then, there is really no problem, only for those glued.

rene

Posted on Monday, June 12th, 2006 at 2:35 pm
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