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Saying Something about Something that is not Nothing

Michael Eldred wrote:

>In your posting to Michael Pennamacoor yesterday (Tue, 08 Jan 2008) you
>wrote:

>>”I have expressed the same thought in the words, ‘any x that is, is
>>not nothing’. do you have the same concerns about that language? it is
>>said that predication is an elementary structure of the logos; but, is
>>predication ’saying something about something’ or ’saying something
>>about something that is … not nothing’? what do you say it is? it’s
>>a choice; and, not everyone makes the same choice.”

>ME: Once again the sham appeal to sham freedom as the capriciousness of
>opinion. Rejecting as you do the age-old formulation stemming from
>Plato and Aristotle

You offer three choices

>A) ’saying something about something’ ,

>B) ’saying something about something that is not nothing’

>C) ’saying something about something that is not a member of the empty
>set’

We can set ‘C’ aside for present purposes; it is a version specifically
desgined for mathematicians, since they are supposed to know that one
can not assign predicates to members of the empty set (because there are
no such members).

>Let us assume for a moment B as the criterion for predication, and also
>that A is not an admissible criterion for predication

I had hoped that you would agree that version B neither adds to nor
subtracts from version A; and, that version A neither adds to nor
subtracts from version B; but, no.

I’ll grant you that Aristotle and Plato may not have explicitly appended
‘that is not nothing’ to the formulation you’ve given ’saying something
about something’. but, if you want to suggest that my version, B above,
is inconsistent with Aristotle or Plato; then, you’ll need to supply a
reference to a text where Aristotle or Plato says that one can say
something about nothing.

Joe


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first person. — H-N Castaneda

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