The Morality of Politics and The Immorality of Religion
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GEVANS613 at aol.com wrote:
> The Islamists have quite openly stated that they wish to install a world
> wide Caliphate - the Hindus slaughtered millions of Moslems during the
> partition of India and vice versa. The death count in Northern Ireland
> Protestant-Catholic assassinations during the troubles has been
> horrific. Since
> 1969, the provincial death toll has grown to about 3500 in an area whose
> population is only about 1.6 million. A comparable relative death toll
> in America would be about 560,000. In Slavery A World History, Milton
> Meltzer estimates that 10 million slaves arrived in the Christian
> Americas. This would be the residue after 12.5% of those shipped out
> from Africa died on the ocean, 4-5% died while waiting in harbour, and
> 33% died during the first year of seasoning. Ronald Segal, in Islam’s
> Black Slaves, estimates the total number of African slaves shipped to
> the religious Muslim world at 11.5M-14M. He goes on… How many people
> died in all the slave harvesting by Moslems over the centuries? I
> hesitate to estimate, but I think we can safely assume that at least 3
> people died for every 2 living slaves delivered (similar to the death
> rate in the Atlantic trade), which comes to about 19M deaths.
>
> Biblical Atrocities Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for
> worshipping the golden calf. Numbers 31: After killing all men, boys and
> married women among the Midianites, 32,000 virgins remain as booty for
> the Israelites. (If unmarried girls are a quarter of the population,
> then 96,000 people were killed.) Joshua: Joshua 8: 12,000 men and women,
> all the people of Ai, killed. Joshua 10: Joshua completely destroys
> Gibeon (”larger than Ai”), Makeddah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron,
> Debir. “He left no survivors.” Joshua 11: Hazor destroyed. [Paul
> Johnson, A History of the Jews (1987), estimates the population of Hazor
> at ? 50,000] TOTAL: if Ai is average, 12,000 x 9 =
> 108,000 killed. Judges 1: 10,000 Canaanites k. at Battle of Bezek.
> Jerusalem and Zephath destroyed. Judges 3: ca. 10,000 Moabites k. at
> Jordan River. Judges 8: 120,000 Midianite soldiers k. by Gideon Judges
> 20: Benjamin attacked by other tribes. 25,000 killed.
> 1 Samuel 4: 4,000 Isrealites killed at 1st Battle of Ebenezer/Aphek.
> 30,000 Isr. k. at 2nd battle. David:
> 2 Samuel 8: 22,000 Arameans of Damascus and 18,000 Edomites killed in 2
> battles.
> 2 Samuel 10: 40,000 Aramean footsoldiers and 7,000 charioteers killed at
> Helam.
> 2 Samuel 18: 20,000 Israelites under Absalom killed at Ephraim.
> 1 Kings 20: 100,000 Arameans killed by Israelites at Battle of Aphek.
> Another 27,000 killed by collapsing wall.
> 2 Chron 13: Judah beat Israel and inflicted 500,000 casualties.
> 2 Chron 25: Amaziah, king of Judah, k. 10,000 from Seir in battle and
> executed 10,000 POWs. Discharged Judean soldiers pillaged and killed 3,000.
> 2 Chron 28: Pekah, king of Israel, slew 120,000 Judeans TOTAL: That
> comes to about 1,283,000 mass killings specifically enumerated in the
> Bible. The battle of
> 2_Chron_13 is so much larger than all the others that we probably should
> doubt it. David Barrett, Todd Johnson, Justin Long World Christian
> Encyclopedia (2001): This book is the standard reference work for
> religious statistics of all kinds, and both Britannica and the World
> Almanac cite from it. It has a single page
> http://gem-werc.org/gd/gd16.pdf] estimating the number of martyrs since
> the origin of each religion: Muslim martyrs: 80M Christian martyrs: 70M
> 20th Century: 45.4M At the hands of… Atheists: 31,689,000 Muslims
> 9,121,000 Ethnoreligionists: 7,469,000 Christians: 5,538,000
> Quasi-religionists 2,712,000 Mahayana Buddhists: 1,651,000 Hindus:
> 676,000 Zoroastrians: 384,000 Hindu martyrs: 20M Buddhist martyrs: 10M
> Jewish: 9M Ethnoreligious: 6M Sikh: 2M Baha’i: 1M Other religious
> martyrs: 5M The book defines martyrs as Believers in Christ (U. O. N.)
> Who have lost their lives Prematurely In situations of witness As a
> result of human hostility. World Christian Trends by Barrett et al:
> Apparently this book gives more details about martyrdom statistics, but
> so far, I haven’t found it in a library (even our local seminary), and I
> can’t afford to buy it myself. (But see
> http://gem-werc.org/gd/listings.pdf) Here are some of the major episodes
> that I’ve been able to scrounge from websites and articles. Some of my
> sources have been somewhat ambiguous in their wording, so I honestly
> don’t know whether they mean to say that the Amerindians and
> Baghdadians, for example, are meant as Christian martyrs or Muslim or
> Shamanist, or whether the various subclasses who died at Soviet or Nazi
> hands are already included in the largest number or meant to be added to
> it. Martyrdom at Soviet hands:
> 1921-50: 15M Christians in prison camps
> 1950-80: 5M Christians in prison camps Orthodox: 14.5M k. by Stalin,
> 2.7M of them martyrs (1929-37) Roman Catholics (1925): 1.2M martyrs By
> Mongols
> 1214: Genghiz Khan massacres 6M Christians: 4M martyrs
> 1214: Diocese of Herat sacked by Genghiz Khan: 1M
> 1258: massacre in Baghdad by Hulaku Khan: 1.1M
> 1358: Tamerlane destroys 15-million-strong Nestorians: 4M martyrs
> Conquistadors kill 15 million Amerindians: 2M martyrs (1560) Christians
> executed by Nazis in death camps: 1M Nazis exterminate 0.5M Gypsies
> Khmer Rouge slaughter 2M (1975) Kurds massacre 20,000 Nestorians (1843)
> Massacre of 40,000 Vietnamese Catholics (1970) The Ottawa Citizen (20
> Dec. 1998)
> 15M Christians d. in Soviet prison camps because of their faith. citing
> Paul Marshall, Their Blood Cries Out ca. 400,000 Chinese Christians died
> during the Cultural Revolution. ca. 100,000 Christians killed by Idi
> Amin (out of 300,000 total k.) Up to 500,000 Rwandan Christians died as
> witnesses to their faith (out of 700,000 total k.) (1994) The Ottawa
> Citizen (6 Feb. 1993) Citing D. Barret, Our Globe and How to Reach It
> 40M Christians martyred throughout history. ca. 24M by secular
> governments and atheists ca. 8M k. by other Christians The bottom line?
>
>
> Jud:
> The bottom line?
>
> I think your analysis is way out of line. It is religion that is the
> evil in our midst, not politics - politics is the handmaiden of religion
> - look at Bush - look at the Christian Catholic reptile Blair… look
> wherever you like.
>
> Next time you see headlines in the newspaper like: *AMERICANS ATTACK
> BAGDAD,* just stick the nauseous adjective of qualification *Christian*
> in front of the sentence thus: *CHRISTIAN AMERICANS ATTACK BAGDADI
> MOSLEMS*. Why? Because USA is a Christian state where 224,457,000
> or 85% of the population are believing Christians. Then there is:
> *RUSSIA ATTACKS CHECHNIA*. this should read: *CHRISTIAN RUSSIA ATTACKS
> MOSLEM CHECHNIA* Why? Because Russia is a Christian state, where
> 80,000,000 or 60% of the population are believing Christians.
>
> Get wise -your eyes are clouded with incense - your tastes contaminated
> with communion wine, and your belly poisoned with consecrated bread that
> represents the dead human meat of Christ’s purifying body.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jud
>
>
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