The new determinism (homosexuality)
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In a message dated 7/19/2006 3:36:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tgeorgescu at home.nl writes:
Bernard,
In part IV ( http://members.aol.com/bernx/bohm3.htm )you seem to say that
introverts are homosexuals. You are simply restating some version of Jung’s
consideration that the inclination to treat others as one treats
himself/herself leads to homosexuality. That’s a mistake. I’m an introvert
and a heterosexual, and because I treat others the same way I am treating
myself, I will wish that they have heterosexual contacts.
Dear Tudor:
You have misread me. I am saying that if a person takes no cognitive
relation to their introversion that same sex love may provide an adaptation to
mitigate the reality of a passive introvert. In that case a persona inversion
takes place because the persona is the complement of anima (for the male) or
animus (for the female), the unconscious contra sexual functions. But I make this
judgement only with regard to the modern cultural ambiance where the cults of
“Gay” or “Queer” politicize same sex love. Such was hardly the case in ancient
Greece and Rome, all the ships at sea, the armies of the world or in prison
where same sex love has little to with Gay or Queer or “same sex” marriage..
As for homosexuals’ creativity, we know from Taoism that in order to produce
a viable creation, one needs both Yn and Yang. Trying to create out of Yn+Yn
or Yang+Yang leads to a non-viable, i.e. sterile creation. It is just as I
put two batteries in my walkman, pole plus of one battery facing other
battery’s pole plus. That is of course absurd.
[BXB]There is no need to justify heterosexuality and the proclivity of
opposites to attract, or what is known as Eros. But that hardly precludes the homo
qua homo (same for the same) predisposition which is in fact a forced
overcoming of the fact that similiars repel each other.
But this is also the position of the unreconstructed introvert who
monosexually seeks only him or herself narcissitically.
[Tudor]The alleged sensibility of the homosexuals is just a high degree of
neuroticism and an instable psyche. Homosexuals are most prone to extreme
jealousy because their sexual contacts cannot fulfil the purpose of having
offspring, therefore the individual egoism is highly stimulated, seeing in
the sex partner nothing else than a producer of orgasms. In a male+female
relationship, the individual egoism is kept under checks and balances by the
perspective of producing offspring and caring for them.
[BXB]Such is certainly the case but which by no means disqualifies same sex
love, providing it is a chosen and not a predetermined form of relationship. We
also find many homosexuals as persons of high achievement such as artists and
writers, not to mention many graduates of Sandhurst who have made their
careers as their “babies.”
[Tudor]The sexual revolution freed the men from their obligation to care for
their
offspring, which is why men’s egoism increased considerably during 20th
century. Women, who at least have a chance to be giving birth to children,
are the victims of the male egoism unleashed by the sexual revolution.
[BXB]The sexual revolution also freed men in their obligation for heterosexual
relationships. Since homosexuality comes naturally in childhood (boys like
boys and girls like girls) as the easy way out, heterosexuality has to be worked
for. In that sense it is super-natural and holds a such in most religions.
But the religious attitude also must be worked for. It is far easier to succumb
to nihilism.
[Tudor]Further, the social consequences of birth control are terrible. In the
Netherlands, women gave birth to far too few children, and now the
Netherlands faces an overwhelming old population which has to be cared for
and provided through the productive work of a diminishing young population.
Besides, the Netherlands is hostile to immigrants, so it cannot do as the US
does, i.e. import workforce from abroad. Satan could not have devised a
better plan for ruining the Western Europe.
[BXB] What! Immigrants are cause for a national ruination? That is only the
case when the immigrants are predetermined as a cult bent on ovethrowing or
reconverting their new homeland. That was and still is the agenda of the Ottoman
Empire and its dedication to globally enforcing an Islam that is bent to such
puropse. That is not immigation but an invasion as would be the case of
illegal Mexican invaders who displace the American flag with that of the flag of
Mexico. They simply want back what the American Manifest Destiny suceeded in
separating from Spain. But in general a vast displacement is taking place by
which the “white race” (of Northern Europe and the British Isles) is up for
extinction or difusion among the many races of the world. It would amount to the
final end of the Roman Empire as it has been extended from Rome to London and
then Washington, DC.
Greetings,
Tudor
Sincerely;
Bernard
(bxbovasso)
