THE STUPIDITY OF CREATIO EX NIHILO.
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Well, creatio ex nihilo is NOT what the Bible says. Genesis 1:2 says there
was a deep of waters (there it does not mean H2O; it means spirit). Genesis
1:1 precedes this scripturally, but it could very well be the introduction
(title) to Genesis 1:2-5 or for the whole book of Genesis.
2 Peter 3:5 may be seen as indicating that skies and earth came from
primordial waters (not H2O, again), e.g. in The Message version. If by
“heavens” we do not mean the firmament, but high energetic levels (spiritual
realm), and by “earth” we understand “matter”, then all matter came from
“waters”, i.e. spirit (God is Spirit and the Word, the Concept is a spirit).
Acts 17:28 does imply that the Creation is a part of God; therefore God
(Spirit) made the world out of His Spiritual Substance.
Therefore creation out of nothing it is not a Biblical doctrine. It can very
well be a churchly doctrine, if by church we understand that association of
hypocritical and exploitive scribes who pretend to speak for God.
So, basically, it is science which claims that world came out of nothing
(Big Bang). That must have been a very peculiar nothing, since it was full
of the laws of mathematical physics, which the nothing understood to obey
since the moment of Big Bang till forever and ever. Therefore, that nothing
was full with something (mathematical laws, thus full with spirit, since
mathematical laws belong to the spirit).
Either the world came out of nothing, or it came from God. Since it is very
probable (i.e. we may consider it sure) that if there is a God, He expressed
Himself in the Bible, and the Bible refuses the creatio ex nihilo, there is
no third possibility, therefore it is no false dilemma. I stated above the
reasons why the world cannot come out of nothing, so it must come from God,
from His Own Substance.
Greetings,
Tudor
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October 2nd, 2006 at 4:43 pm
I agree with your idea that Genesis account of creation does not imply creatio ex nihilo in the real sense of the word. However the verb bara used in the opening sentence of Genesis refers to nothing.There was nothing inthe beginning when God created heaven and earth. I dis agree with you that God created the universe out of the substance of himself.That assertion would make the universe and all it contains eternal.In away analogous to describing it as being the same with God.This is simple pantheism that does not square with our understanding of creatio ex nihilo in theology.It is not scintific either.
April 2nd, 2007 at 7:34 am
Perhaps God IS Nature-The Living One- or even the Collective unconscious of Carl G. Jung, or at least that part of it that is becoming conscious.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:49 am
To say that the Big Bang made stuff out of nothing leaves a big question unasnwered - that is - where did the stuff come from. Many people try to say that God made the big bang and thet is where the nothing came from. But, this doesn’t read right with Genesis chapt. 1. Gen 1 talks about hte goodness of the creation, and the big bang leaves too much time, and too much ungood to reconcile with the Bible. Simple seven days of 24 hours and good speaking creation into existance, and so it is from nothing. God is not part of creation any more than a person is part of the item which he/she has made. I am a builder, but the house is not part of me, nor I part of it. The difference is that I need something to build from. God does not. Something from nothing, and it wiil not be done again, as far as we know from what God tells us in the Bible.
May 13th, 2007 at 4:39 am
re: creation out of nothing and the big bang theory
i seem to recall reading somewhere that in a perfect vacuum virtual particles can exist, changing the energy levels at a minute level for the smallest amount of time.
doesn’t that insinuate that creation of something out of nothing is possible?
i’m not being pro-creatio ex nihilo, i’m just saying that it is possible.
June 8th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
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