Heidegger

In a message dated 31/05/2007 22:59:30 GMT Standard Time, _Bernx at aol.com_
(mailto:Bernx@aol.com) writes: In a message dated 5/30/2007 9:06:53 PM Eastern
Daylight Time, _GEVANS613 at aol.com_ (mailto:GEVANS613@aol.com) writes:

Jud:
I would have thought that ANY KIND of government is better that the one you
poor Americans are lumbered with right now?

Bernard:
As compared to what other delightful governments?

Jud:
Well say Sweden or Switzerland for starters. No doubt you will dredge up
some bile from that capacious butt of anti-humanistic vitriol with which to
acidulate those decent Europeans with your nihilistic nebuliser?

Jud: [previously]
I have heard that your press is more or less in the pockets of big business
and you only get told what they want you to know -

Bernard:
Wrong, old bean. American media is in the hands of the so called “liberal
left” that promotes your Americaphobic ideas far more effictively and along with
the new American Congress.

Jud:
Balderdash! I read the American press probably more than you do - if what I
read is the product of the *liberal left* then your *right wing* by comparison
must be baby-eating necrophiliacal spawn of Attilla the Hun. Any examination
of the the list archives will tell you that I am NOT anti-American, nor do I
have *Americaphobic ideas,* and in fact I admire and like Americans (ask
Rene, Malcolm, or anybody else ) who used to criticise me of being too fond of
and an apologist for America.

It is not the American PEOPLE that I ridicule and lampoon, it is your
present government, which by general world concensus, and in the opinion of many
of your own countrymen is the worst administration in the long history of your
nation.

Jud: [previously]
But surely it must have perculated through to you guys that America is more
or less held in contempt by the rest of the world for the first time in my
lifetime anyway.

Bernard:
What are you ten years old? The USA has been demonized since the Marshall
Plan (1948) when it sent food for starving Western Europeans at the time
(France, Italy, Germany, Greece, etc) and funds for reconstruction.

Jud:
Rubbish! America was and still is held in great affection by millions of
Europeans with longer memories for its generosity in the immediate post-war
period.

It is precisely this store of good will that Bush and his evil crew have
traded on and eaten into and ultimately wasted like rich brats at a gaming
table squandering the esteem in which America was held in the pursuit of their
own evil agendas. To Britain’s eternal shame, the dummy with the fixed smile in
number 10 was egregiously tonguing the ass of the wretch Bush as he bent [or
was pushed] over the gambolling table, whilst Britain’s [and the British
Labour Party’s] own good-will chips depreciated with each Blairean lingual lick.

Bernard:
During the Spring of 1946 my Liberty cargo ship …

Jud:
NOW HEAR THIS! NOW HEAR THIS! All men on deck immediately and assemble on
the poop-deck.
The ship’s griot is ready to deliver yet another *Tale of the Sea.*

Bernard:
….sailed up the Weser River with a cargo of flour for starving Germans. We
lost a fireman, murdered in the streets by the underground Nazi Werewolves.

Jud:
Blame Heidegger’s Nazi pals - not the average European.

Bernard:
It was said that he was drunk and bragging out loud that he was an American
Jew.

Jud:
If that were true can you blame him in a land where six million of them had
been victims of Heidegger’s *Factory Farms? No doubt the man was proud of
being an American and of being a Jew - as I would be if I were such a man.
Whether he was silly or not for stating his position surrounded by people who had
not long before been aware of [and by doing nothing] acquiesed in or were
to frightened to resist such evil is another matter - from what ensued -
obviousy it was a crazy thing to do.

Bernard:
On another trip, this time in Pireaus, bringing aid in the Fall of 1945…

Jud:
Christ here we go again…any excuse to start spouting about the adventures
of Captain Bernard Birdseye Munchausen…

Bernard:
the American Merchant Marine crew were not allowed ashore because the
Marxist partisans fighting the British and the Greek government, would shoot an
American on sight. Most of the European America bashing was because the local
communist qua Soviet party gangs, did not appreciate America giving aid to
Europeans. But more likely, no one likes a benefactor when soon enough its
recipients proceed to bash it.

Jud:
For them it was not just Americans they would shoot on sight it was a member
of any group who they considered an enemy of their own project.

Bernard:
Do you wonder what will happen, now in Europe and the UK, if the US of A
backs off, removes its troops from the Near East, Germany and the Balkans, and
discontinues funding both friendly and enemy nations alike, something it has
done since WWII. You will then enjoy the Caliphat of the British Isles if not
Europe from Spain to Turkey.

Jud:
My own reading of what you say is that such a troop withdrawal would damage
America just as much as Europe. Europe would suffer it is true, but with the
consolidation of the new European hegemony over the continental economic and
political system of the ever-expanding EEC Europe is a lot stronger that it
used to be, and is technologically advanced to boot.

Bernard:
On the other hand, I always dispised such American largess simply because I
had to risk my ass in the US Merchant Marine to get such “gifts” over there.

Jud:
Look out! Grab a lifebelt! Captian Birdseye! Quickly! Shake a leg and
take the helm and save us all!

Bernard:
That was “postwar” from 1945 to December of 1946 when Harry Truman declared
that period for the US Forces as one of combat. The war ended for them at the
end of 1946. During Sept. of 1946 my ship, just out of Bremerhaven, exploded
from a bomb placed in its hold by the “postwar” Nazi underground and
foundered in the North Sea. We got the 200 US women of the armed forces off safely
in the ship’s boats. The rest of us re-boarded the listing ship and prevented
it from sinking.

Jud:
Bob Guevera was right - your contributions appear to indicate that you feel
obsseively compelled to compete for attention?
Any excuse to fall back on your own anecdotal *lamp-swinging* stories. J

Jud: [previously]
Bush is an absolute laughing-stock and is the butt of just about every
comedy show from John O’Groats to Vladivostock.

Bernard:
Yes, and from Hollywood to Woodstock.

Jud:
I am glad you agree.

Bernard:
I also dun him for the the U. S. traditional “save the world” approach and
he and we of..

Jud:
SAVE THE WORLD!!! HAHAHA!! The attack on Iraq has done more than anything
else since WWII to jeapordise world peace and to unleash the hatred of the
Muslim world on the west. Thanks to Bush, I would not be at all surprised to
see Israel wiped off the face of the earth in my lifetime if the extremists in
that region get their hands on an H-Bomb. If an impoverished little state
like North Korea can develop one, it won’t be too difficulty for some Middle
Eastern state to acheive it covertly and complete the end-game logic of Bush
and Blair’s ill-advised adventure.

Bernard:
the US should take up that Brit, slogan: “Fuck you, I am all right, Jack.”.
Jud: From what I can see britain is the only genuine friend that the US has
these days - if that is what you have to say about a friend, one begins to see
why.

Bernard:
But wait until Hollywood and Woodstock get their “liberal” way in the 2008
presidential election and you will see some fireworks that will make W look
like a pussycat following, as such, the foreign policy instituted from the wars
of Democrate regimes from Presidents Roosevelt, Truman to Johnson and then
with much gift giving after the slaughter.

Jud:
The presidents you mention were decent men fighting for freedom against
Nazism and latterly Communism and for decent human values. The largesse they
dispensed was humanitarian and was an act in which most Americans and the
majority of the nations of the world look to with admiration and pride that such a
commonwealth of people like Americans exist in this world You depreciate and
besmirch the good name of the American people.

Bernard:
On the other hand, Jud, you are a real prick for an Englishman, forgetting
the convoys to Britiain bringing aid and arms when it was under siege by the
Nazi. If not for that aid you would have been goosestepping now and forced to
lick the Nazi ass of Heidegger, Where were you, you miscreant schoolboy, when
before the US entered the warit it had U. S. Navy destoyers sheparding
Merchant Marine ships to the British Isles and with heavy casualties from German
U-boats. Where were you…. oh fouhgedaboudit.

Jud:
No, I won’t forget about it - particularly being from Liverpool. My text
above demonstrates that. I am eternally grateful to the American nation and to
the families of the American military who sacrificed their lives to help
democracy when it needed them most.

So mote it be.

Jud Evans.

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